Is Jesus Christ the Mediator for Jehovah Witnesses (144,000)?

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1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

The Jehovah Witnesses are everywhere throughout the world preaching the “good news of the kingdom” There’s a good chance you’ve seen them sitting next to a cart filled with their publications of Watchtower and Awake magazines. I’ve been speaking with a couple of JW’s and asked one woman “is Christ your mediator?”, her reply was “yes of course”, I then asked “so the governing body is not your mediator?”; she replied “Christ is our mediator and the governing body is the faithful and discreet slave spoken of in Matthew”.

I disagree with her and will show you why Jehovah Witnesses is a cult. She either she was telling me this in ignorance or flat out lying. Let’s see what the Watchtower teaches about who Jesus Christ is the Mediator for? Is Jesus Christ the mediator for all or not?

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According to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society’s online library, under “Mediator Watch Tower Publications Index 1986–2019 Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2” it states:

Those for Whom Christ Is Mediator. The apostle Paul declares that there is “one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all”​ — for both Jews and Gentiles. (1Ti 2:5, 6) He mediates the new covenant between God and those taken into the new covenant, the congregation of spiritual Israel. (Heb 8:10–13; 12:24; Eph 5:25–27) Christ became Mediator in order that the ones called “might receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance” (Heb 9:15); he assists, not the angels, but “Abraham’s seed.” (Heb 2:16) He assists those who are to be brought into the new covenant to be ‘adopted’ into Jehovah’s household of spiritual sons; these eventually will be in heaven as Christ’s brothers, becoming a part with him of the seed of Abraham. (Ro 8:15–17, 23–25; Ga 3:29) He has transmitted to them the promised holy spirit, with which spirit they are sealed and are given a token of what is to come, their heavenly inheritance. (2Co 5:5;Eph 1:13, 14) The total number of those who are finally and permanently sealed is revealed in Revelation 7:4–8 as 144,000. — Watchtower

The Watchtower teaches that those who are of the 144,000 anointed spoken of in Revelation are the only ones who benefit from Christ as their mediator. The Jehovah Witnesses believe that only the anointed “Christians” are the only ones who will be in heaven. The rest of Jehovah Witnesses do not go to Heaven but will remain on a paradise earth. The Watchtower teaches that there are 2 classes of Jehovah Witnesses, the anointed who will rule and reign with Christ in Heaven the 144,000. While the rest must remain here on a paradise earth.

This will happen after Armageddon when all the wicked are removed from the earth and the only people who’ll survive are Jehovah Witnesses. The “anointed class” of JW’s are looked upon as being the most spiritual because they have been chosen by God to go to Heaven. They won’t say this up front but the culture itself is what proves this to be true among JW’s. If you read the quote again it states.

  1. Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for “all” BUT
  2. He became the Mediator for those that “receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance” WHICH
  3. Only applies to those who “eventually will be in heaven as Christ’s brothers” THEREFORE
  4. Jesus is only the Mediator for the anointed, who in the theology of Jehovah Witnesses number only 144,000 people.

To sum it all up according to the Watchtower Jesus is only the Mediator of the 144,000 anointed class of Jehovah Witnesses. If you’re not part of the 144,000 sorry Jesus is not your Mediator according to them. You’re part of “the great crowd of Witnesses” who have to remain on earth.

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Under “Questions From Readers The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom — 1989” we get a more clear cut answer as to who they believe Jesus is the Mediator for. If you read it says that “1 Timothy 2:5, 6 is not using the term “mediator” in the broad sense common in many languages”. Only the “anointed class” are part of the new covenant according to Watchtower. In the another page of “Questions From Readers 1979” it states that “Jesus is only the Mediator for anointed Christians”.

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The club gets even more exclusive, they take it even further than saying it’s only for the 144,000 in which Jesus is their mediator but they also call themselves “spiritual Israel” that’s another name for the anointed class of Jehovah Witnesses.

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So what does this all mean, if you’re a Jehovah Witness and are not of the anointed class then you don’t have Jesus as your Mediator. And there’s a very good reason why the Watchtower set this up this way. All cults strive for absolute power over their members. Many JW’s are unaware of this teaching from the Watchtower, even in their twisted version of the Bible (New World Translation) plainly states.

1 Timothy 2:5, 6 NWT For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

Now, what does God’s holy word have to say about this heretical teaching of the Watchtower? The Bible tells us that Jesus died for all not some but all mankind. The apostle Paul in his writings epistles said:

2 Corinthians 5:15–17 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

1 Timothy 2:5–6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

The Lord Jesus plainly said “he that believes in me though he were dead yet shall he live”. Never once did He mention that you must be part of the 144,000 in order to be brought into the new covenant. This means all true believers have Christ as their Mediator, there’s no “special class” of Christians.

When you dig deeper into why the Watchtower would place specific people in a “higher class” of Jehovah Witnesses starts to become clear. The Watchtower says that the great crowd of JW’s benefit from being in union with the anointed class. Basically speaking their salvation is contingent not on Jesus Christ but those people who are part of the anointed class.

And guess what the men who are part of the governing body are all part of this “anointed class” and “receive direct messages from Jehovah God”. These are the men who make the rules for all Jehovah Witnesses worldwide they are the ones who rule them with an iron fist. And this shows the reason why they’ve set up this unbiblical system in order to control people hence why it’s a high control cult.

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Jehovah Witnesses are told that they must obey these men no matter what they say or else they are disfellowshipped, shunned and cut off from family members, friends even jobs. A person involved in this organization has much to lose when their whole life is the Watchtower. JW’s are not allowed to read any publications outside of Watchtower and it’s these men who disseminate information down to other members of the society. They use this verse out of context to rule over their members.

Matthew 24:45–46 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

This verse speaks on the men who would take oversight but as well take the leadership role in the home. In 1 Timothy 3 Paul begins with husbands, indicating that training and preparation begin in the home. “If a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the Church of God?” He must learn to correct and discipline with gravity and dignity (3:4) but remembering the instructions, “Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged” (Colossians 3:21).

Last but not least the 144,000 spoken of in the Bible are only Jewish believers in Jesus Christ who will preach the Gospel during the time of the great tribulation. These 144,000 are virgin men from every tribe of the nation of Israel.

Revelation 7:4–8 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Revelation 14:3–4 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

To the Jehovah Witnesses

God is holy and perfect and He requires holiness and perfection from us. Holiness is the inability to sin. It means moral perfection and it is something that God alone possesses. Holiness is an attribute of God’s perfect nature. Therefore, since there is no one greater than God, and God is the greatest good, God is necessarily the standard of what is good.

The Law is a reflection of the character of God. The reason it is wrong to lie, cheat, and steal, etc., is because God cannot do these things. Because He is holy, He is incapable of lying, cheating, etc. Therefore, the Law becomes the standard of righteousness. But we are incapable of keeping the Law because we are not holy. We are sinners. Once this is said, you must ask the person if he has ever sinned. You might want to explain that sin is breaking the Law of God. You ask the person if he has ever lied, cheated, stolen, or been angry unrighteously, etc. He will answer “yes” to one or all of these, and that is when you tell him that he has broken God’s Law and is a sinner. Furthermore, there is no law that has no punishment. A law without punishment is a slogan. The punishment for breaking God’s Law is eternal damnation.

John 3:18, 36 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. … He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

The Gospel is the good news that the judgment of God upon the person who has broken God’s Law can be removed in the person of Jesus. This is done because of Jesus, who is God the Son in flesh, He was able to perfectly keep the Law and offer a sacrifice to God the Father. His sacrifice is the death on the cross, which was the payment for the penalty of breaking the Law of God. He died there and three days later physically rose from the dead as proof that His words, deeds, and sacrifice were true. Therefore, if anyone wants to escape the righteous judgment of God, he must receive the sacrifice that Christ made on the cross. This is done by faith, by asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the only Mediator between God and man, come to Him and live!!!

Why The Christadelphians Are A Cult.

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2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Christology: The Preeminence of the Lord Jesus Christ

All our hope, faith and salvation hinges on who is the Lord Jesus Christ. Was He who He claimed to be God in the flesh, or was He just a man? If the Lord Jesus truly is God then we have hope and all eternity to look forward to as believers in Christ. But if He’s just a man (creature) as many cults believe then we’re all lost and dead in our sins.

1 Corinthians 15:14, 17 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. … And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Christology is the study of the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ, who He is, His claims, the miracles He’s done. The greatest attack on Christianity is from cults and world religions who try to refute His (Jesus) claim as the Son of God, being in the very nature of God and saying He’s anything less. Today we will look at the heretical claims of one such cult called the Christadelphians.

If you’d like to know more about how they came to be here’s an earlier post about the history of the Christadelphians

What do the Christadelphians believe?

To quote directly from their home page.

The Wrested Scriptures Page lists passages commonly used to defend the erroneous views and outlines the correct understanding of these passages.

In referring to ‘Mainstream Christianity’, we speak of the principal Christian groups, such as Catholics, Baptists, Evangelicals, Pentecostals, etc.

Please excuse the directness of the sections below; due to the nature of the media, we felt it was best.— Christadelphians

There’s one thing to note before delving into what they believe. All cults have similar things in common but what they all have in common is they say “they’re the only true church” or “they alone hold the truth”. Christadelphians, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Oneness Pentecostals and Catholics all make this “truth claim”. The Jehovah Witnesses also say that Christendom is all false as well as the Christadelphians, therefore by each of these groups saying “all Christendom is all false” also means that Jehovah Witnesses and Christadelphians would have to say they’re both wrong. Maybe that’s a topic for another post. Let’s get to it.

The bulk of all Christianity teaches unequivocally that Jesus is God. This claim is made without qualification. Typically, it is said that Jesus is 100% man and 100% God: that Jesus was fully God, and never ceased to be God while on earth. And usually, when it really gets down to the nitty-gritty, it is said the whole issue (the Trinity) is a mystery. — Christadelphians

To begin Christianity didn’t teach that Jesus Christ is God, the Lord Jesus Christ said He’s God and the Bible teaches that He’s God that’s where we get our theology straight from God’s word. As Christians, we believe what Jesus said to be true. Not only does the New Testament give direct evidence that Jesus is God, but it also provides indirect evidence. There are many indirect references that could be cited. Some of these include.

Jesus Possesses The Attributes Of Deity: According to Scripture, Jesus possessed certain attributes that belong to God alone.

Jesus Is All-Knowing:

God’s word says that Jesus is all-knowing. He knew the thoughts of people.

Luke 6:8 But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.

Jesus was able to tell the Samaritan woman her past history without previously meeting her before.

John 4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

The Samaritan woman went back and said to the people in her village.

John 4:29 Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?

A mere man wouldn’t be able to know the thoughts of others. It shows forth God’s ability to be all knowing. The disciples themselves also recognized that the Lord Jesus knew all things.

John 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.

Psalms 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

We praise God for His divine understanding His Omniscience because He knows all things better than any of us can (Psalms 147:4, Isaiah 40:28, Jeremiah 1:5, 23:24).

He’s Both Fully God and Fully Man

Mortality and Immortality are mutually exclusive characteristics. If Jesus is God, he couldn’t have really died, for God is immortal by nature. Likewise, if Jesus died, he couldn’t really be God, for God cannot die. Immortality is not a fluctuating quality! A being is either mortal or immortal. You can’t have it both ways with this. Either Christ died, and he was mortal during his time of ministry 2000 years ago, or he’s God and could have never died. Pick one alternative, as holding both is simply untenable. Traditional Christians typically respond to this point with the idea stated above in the introduction, that Jesus was fully human and fully God. But look at the next point. — Christadelphians

The Christadelphians reject the divinity of Christ, they cannot grasp the foundational truth that Christ always existed before time. He is eternal and shares the same nature as the Father. Christadelphians demoted the Lord Jesus to a mere man in their theology one who has no power to save; another Jesus as Paul the apostle said (2 Corinthians 11:4). As Christians, we reject this idea that the Christ Jesus was a powerless man.

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The word of God shows that the Lord Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, both fully God and fully man. Speaking of the Jesus the writer to the Hebrews wrote of Christ preexisting all of creation without beginning.

Hebrews 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

John the Apostle also wrote in one of the most well-known verses in the Bible speaking of His divinity.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

when looking into the Greek language it says that He (Jesus) was face to face with God (Father), He (Jesus) was always there.

πρός prós, pros; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. toward (with the genitive case, the side of, i.e. pertaining to; with the dative case, by the side of, i.e. near to; usually with the accusative case, the place, time, occasion, or respect, which is the destination of the relation, i.e. whither or for which it is predicated) In the comparative case, it denotes essentially the same applications, namely, motion towards, accession to, or nearness at.

John goes on to say in his Gospel that all things were made by the Lord Jesus in pertaining to creation.

John 1:2–3 The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

We can also connect these verses to others which say that God alone created all things by Himself.

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

The question must then be asked if God says He created all things by Himself then are their two Creators? Of course not that’s because when the Bible speaks of God it’s referring to His being. We also see the plurality and the distinction of Persons in the Godhead, therefore it makes sense when Jesus is attributed to be the Creator of all things.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

The Temptation of Christ

For the temptations of Christ to have been in any way real, there had to exist the possibility that he could sin. If Christ is God, it is impossible that he could have sinned, for God is perfect by nature. Jesus pointed this out in Mt 19:17, marking the distinction between himself and God (only ONE is good…).
If Christ was God, and therefore couldn’t sin, all his ‘temptations’ were faked, and his identification with mankind a cruel sham! And for those affirming the “fully God/fully man” idea, do you really see God locking Himself into a nature that could potentially sin? Finally, James explicitly states that God cannot be tempted by evil (1:13–15). — Christadelphians

What the Christadelphians are saying is because satan attempted to tempt the Lord Jesus means that He couldn’t have been God? This makes no sense just because satan tried to foil God’s plan doesn’t take away the fact that Jesus Christ is God. Do they really expect that satan was going to sit back and not at least try even though he would never be successful?

The temptations were not “faked” just because Jesus is God, satan in his failing attempts try to get Christ to display His power as a result of pride. The nail in the coffin is that the writer to the Hebrews addressed this saying.

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

The Lord Jesus was like us in the sense that He felt the same things we did, He experienced the same emotions and knows the same hardships we face. He took on the likeness of sinful flesh.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

The scriptures say that He took on our nature that is human nature, the seed of Abraham. This also speaks to the virgin birth.

Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Let’s not also forget that the Lord Jesus is in the order of Melchizedek, He’s our great high priest and has the eternal priesthood.

Hebrews 7:21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

But God the Father Himself in talking with the Son He calls the Son God, if God the Father can call the Lord Jesus God then why won’t the Christadelphians?

Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Jesus Christ is God because mankind is a fallen creature through the downfall of Adam sin came into the world and death by sin, therefore every human being born is a sinner by nature we cannot escape the fact that we we’re in bondage to sin.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

Since the Lord Jesus is God He alone was able to purchase is from the slave market of sin, He alone had the means necessary to accomplish this redemptive act. This is why we can sing the song, “Redeemed, How I love to Proclaim it!”. We were redeemed with incorruptible things His blood which is precious and cleanseth us from all unrighteousness.

1 Peter 1:18–19 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

All those believers who are blood bought by the Lord Jesus Christ will sing and proclaim in Heaven the great truth of His redeeming power.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

It goes to show that Jesus had to come in our likeness under the law to redeem us who couldn’t save ourselves. An angel cannot die for our sins nor any other creature, only human life had to be given for human life. While at the same time our Redeemer had to be in the position or have the means by which He could purchase us, and being God in the flesh His blood was spotless and pure without sin. How glorious is our Saviour!!!

The Power of Jesus Christ

God is undeniably all-powerful, while Jesus always acknowledged that his power was received from God, not inherently his own (ie. John 7:16, 8:28, 12:49–50, 14:28). He said this about his teaching as well, in many places. Why would he say this if he and God were the one and same? In addition, when the disciples requested to sit at his right hand and at his left, he said that this was not his to give, but the Fathers’ to decide (Matt. 20:23). The usual response to this is that the different persons of God have different domains of authority; but there you would venture out onto thin ice indeed, as it is very difficult to be One, yet have multiple and distinct personhoods, with distinct levels of authority. — Christadelphians

Another mistake the Christadelphians argue is that Jesus acknowledged His power being received from God. This is where the Humanity of Christ is displayed in its splendour. The apostle Paul when addressing the saints at Philippi brought the human nature of Christ to their remembrance.

Cults like the Christadelphians always overlook the book of Philippians and this wonderful passage of scripture which speaks of His Humanity and Divine nature; fully God and fully man.

Philippians 2:5–8 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

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He (Jesus) is equal to the Father but even though He humbled himself and took the form of a servant made in the likeness of men and was obedient unto the death of the cross. God came off His throne stepped into His own creation that He might take the punishment we deserve because of our sins. He paid the ultimate price for us that we could be set free from sin and death. The prophet Isaiah also made mention of this redemptive act.

Isaiah 53:3–7 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

God Is By Nature Invisible

God is by nature invisible and never seen (Jn. 1:18, I Tim. 6:16, I Jn. 4:12); Jesus was of course seen. To say that God was never seen, and then to continue that Jesus is God just doesn’t make sense. The idea that Jesus is God isn’t a mystery or some profound biblical truth too deep to understand — it just doesn’t make sense. — Christadelphians

At least the Christadelphians are saying they don’t understand and that’s ok but just because you cannot understand something doesn’t make it not true. When the Bible speaks of God not being seen that’s speaking of the Father. Moses asked to see God and was told He would die.

Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

It makes perfect sense that when the scriptures speak of Jacob wrestling with God, Isaiah being undone when seeing Christ in His glory, and John in Revelation falling at His feet as dead. The power and majesty and Holiness of God because He’s so pure reveals our sin in us, how unclean we are.

Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Isaiah 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

This cannot go without saying that the apostle Thomas said speaking of the risen Christ.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

God the Lord Jesus Christ was standing in the midst of them, we have a personal God one who’s interested in His creation and loves us so very much!

God the Father

In the Bible, God = the Father, and no other. See Rom. 1:7, Col.3:17, I Thes. 1:1, II Tim 1:2 and many more (for example, the introductory words of almost all Paul’s letters). The appelations “the Father” and “Jesus” are never used interchangeably in the Bible. — Christadelphians

They miss the fact that the Son shares the same divine nature of the Father, just as the Holy Spirit shares the same divine nature as well. As Christians, we never believed that the Father is the Son are the same Persons in the Godhead; we believe in 1 God who has revealed Himself in 3 distinct persons who all share the same divine attributes.

On a number of occasions, Jesus is associated with God in an equal manner. For example, in baptism, He’s put Jesus on an equal level with God the Father. This is also true of the apostolic benediction.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

As we also know that a name also bares authority, when a police officer says stop in the name of the law he’s coming in the authority of the law. It’s why the Pharisees asked the apostles Peter and John the question:

Acts 4:7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?

Notice the Pharisees asked by what power or name they associated a name with authority, this is why later in the scriptures it says:

Philippians 2:10–11 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Notice 1 Timothy 3:16 says “God was manifest in the flesh”, God came in the form of a man. How can the Christadelphians deny such truth? It’s because they’re a cult and that’s what cults do.

As we can plainly see that the Christadelphians are not Christians, a cult is a group which would claim to be Christian but deviates from one or more foundational doctrines from God’s word. There are many more erroneous teachings the Christadelphians believe which are heretical. They share the same views as Arius of Alexandria which was deemed heretical by the early church fathers.

Arius of Alexandria was cast out of the church as a heretic during the council of Nicea in the early fourth century AD. One of the earliest and probably the most important item of debate among early Christians was the subject of Christ’s deity. Was Jesus truly God in the flesh, or was Jesus a created being? Was Jesus God or not? Arius denied the deity of the Son of God, holding that Jesus was created by God as the first act of creation and that the nature of Christ was anomoios (“unlike”) that of God the Father. Arianism, then, is the view that Jesus is a finite created being with some divine attributes, but He is not eternal and not divine in and of Himself.

We still are seeing the effects of Arianism in the likes of Christadelphians, Jehovah Witnesses, Islam and Mormonism. Just like the early Christians then we as Christians today must stand up against this heretical teaching. The epistle of Jude puts it this way.

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

If you’re part of the Christadelphians this is to show you the errors you’re holding onto, our hope and prayer would be that you would come to know the real Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible and not the false Jesus you currently believe in. If you have the right Jesus you’ll be right for all eternity, but if you have the wrong Jesus you’ll be wrong for all eternity.

Vast Apostate Army friend or foe of the Gospel?

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2 Timothy 4:14–15 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.

Introduction

First and foremost I don’t agree with the Watchtower/Jehovah Witnesses in what they teach, the Watchtower organization is a cult and has deceived indoctrinating many people into false doctrine about who Jesus Christ is and many other things the Bible teaches. While I agree with the Vast Apostate Army that the Watchtower is a destructive cult. There are other things I disagree with in this movement.

The Vast Apostate Army’s mission?

They’re a wide collection of people from different country’s who’ve banded together through similar experiences they had from at one time being members of the Jehovah Witnesses also known as Watchtower. Most of them were either born into a family of Jehovah Witnesses or became members of the organization. And now we have a bunch of unconverted people confronting JW’s with fleshly messages, a message devoid of the only one who matters Jesus Christ.

Our mission is to raise global awareness of the harm some of the Jehovah’s Witness/Watchtower’s policies can to to individuals, families, and the wider community. It is our hope that this awareness will lead to policy reform within the organization to better protect it’s members as well as members of the general public. We also aim to reach survivors of abuse within the organization who very likely think they are alone and the mishandling of their specific case was just a one off. You are not alone! There are thousands more and there is support. Lastly, many of us still have loved ones inside the organization and wish to free them from the mental grip of a high control group (cult). We fight for justice, reform, and healing. — Vast Apostate Army

If you visit their site you’ll see “Welcome To The Vast Apostate Army An Army Of Love” in bold green letters, let us test this claim of “love”. As Christians, we know theirs only one true love which is the love of God. God has shown His unending eternal love when He gave His Son the Lord Jesus Christ to die for the sins of the world, and as a result, we share the Gospel with others so that they could also know this love.

Satan also counterfeits a false “love”, the type of “love” the world receives. This false love affirms mottos such as “love is love” a saying popular among the LGBT community. A fleshly love which agrees with sex outside of the marriage covenant. A love which proclaims “tolerance” to all just not when you mention the word of God. Therefore, if the Vast Apostate Army says they’re an army of love which love are they referring too?

I’ll be fine thanks

The movement’s strategy is typically visiting kingdom halls and disrupting their services by attending and during the service inciting a sort of flash mob, or picketing these locations. They normally will draw up signs with statements such as “I mourn for the suicide victims in the Watchtower”, “you can leave there is support”, “protect your kids for the Watchtower” etc. There’s nothing wrong with these messages, I agree we should protect our children for such people as the Watchtower.

I came across a few of these VAA members YouTube channels and never do I see any of them sharing the Gospel with Jehovah Witnesses. If they want the Watchtower to be done away with which I do as well. The only way is to share the Gospel, that they can have forgiveness of sins by placing their trust in the ransom sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. All individuals who got saved left the Watchtower and are no longer Jehovah Witnesses.

The members of the VAA will typically have a message of how their family was destroyed, how a person was abused, shunned and disfellowshipped. Using their personal experiences when they were involved with this cult should be used but not the main message. There’s power in the Gospel of Christ!

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Six months ago I came across one of Stacey’s YouTube video’s in which she confronts two elders at a university campus, afterwards, I made a few comments stating that she must be born again. Here’s what transpired.

This is actually not good “unwitnessing” or whatever you want to call it. I fully agree that the JW cult are seriously wrong in all their doctrine, how they conduct themselves, shun anyone who’s not a JW’s, sex abuse etc. But more importantly above all of that they deny the Lord Jesus Christ as God in the flesh and need salvation. I say this to you with love, you need to be saved, you need eternal life just as much as those JW’s. JW’s need to hear the gospel and be saved, sure use those facts you have also in order to reach them but they need to hear the gospel.

I also quoted 1 Corinthians 15:3–15:4. “You need to approach them in a loving way, we’ve all been lost just like they are, I too was completely lost and dead in my sins but the Lord saved me and now I’m born again. Are you saved? Because the Lord Jesus said:

Then I quoted John 3:3 “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:7 “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”

“If you believe in God then you’ll have no problem loving your enemies only a born again Christian can love/pray their enemies though a heart of love. The scriptures saith:” (Matthew 5:43–5:46) I then ended my comment saying “Keep on speaking to JW’s they need to know how wrong the Watchtower is, but I’ll keep you in my prayers that you become born again and escape the wrath of God, you don’t need to miss heaven and go to hell. I would hate for that to happen to you. I pray you have ears to hear and harken unto these words.”

Stacey’s response was this “I’ll be fine thanks”. “It is literally none of your concern if we’re “saved” or not according to your personal beliefs. Aren’t you done with pushing your beliefs on others after having freed yourself from a high control group? Be happy with your faith and let others be happy with theirs or lack there of. Thanks.”

More recently in a video Parker and Stacey “crashed” a JW memorial and were kicked out while they were leaving the building Parker said “in Jesus name Amen” I found this strange because Stacey doesn’t want to discuss anything about Jesus Christ but here they are using His name? I decided to reach out once again this time to Parker. I said:

“I asked Stacey sometime ago if she was saved and she said no thanks. I heard you say “in Jesus name Amen”? It’s horrible that the Watchtower had a huge negative impact on your family. It’s great that you’re standing up against the false doctrines of the Watchtower, I myself do the same, but the question is are you saved? Additionally, saying the Watchtower ruined my family shouldn’t be your main message, the Gospel is what should be shared with JW’s and all who are not saved. Would appreciate a response to the question are you saved? Thanks.”

To my surprise Stacey responded not Parker saying:

let me put your mind at ease. I’m not interested in your relihion where you think a person needs saving or we are lost and doomed to burn in hell. So no thanks to ever being “saved” by YOUR personal “savior”. I don’t need it. I also don’t need your Jesus. 😉”.

What does this mean for us Christians?

Not only do we face the real threat of cults indoctrinating many people leading them to a lost eternity in hell, but we also face movements such as Vast Apostate Army who are making it harder for Christians to spread the Gospel of peace to the lost. We have an army of lost people going into kingdom halls and approaching JW carts to do “unwitnessing” while at the same time making it more difficult for us to reach these lost souls with the truth of the Gospel.openair

Satan will use anything to try to stop the Gospel message from going forth the scriptures say that he comes as an angel of light. The devil will also use movements such as VAA in order to make it more difficult to reach people with God’s truth.

2 Corinthians 11:13–14 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

My hope is that all the members of Vast Apostate Army would be born again they all of them would go out in the power of the Holy Spirit in order to rise up against the Watchtower. Until they wake up and see that it’s the power of God that changes a person they won’t see the true potential through God’s mighty hand. He alone can overcome the multi-million dollar cult organization known as the Watchtower.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Refuting the false doctrine of the Watchtower (The Resurrection)

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The death, burial and Resurrection

Jehovah Witnesses say that when Jesus was buried in the sepulchre (tomb) He was not raised with a physical body but a spiritual body; afterwards Jesus was then recreated in heaven as Michael the archangel. Here are some direct quotes from the Watchtower organization.

“Jesus’ own words showed that he would not be resurrected with his flesh-and-blood body. He said that he would give his “flesh in behalf of the life of the world,” as a ransom for mankind. If he had taken back his flesh when he was resurrected, he would have canceled that ransom sacrifice. This could not have happened, though, for the Bible says that he sacrificed his flesh and blood “once for all time.” — Watchtower

“Spirit creatures can take on human form. For example, angels who did this in the past even ate and drank with humans. However, they still were spirit creatures and could leave the physical realm.” — Watchtower

“After his resurrection, Jesus also assumed human form temporarily, just as angels had previously done. As a spirit creature, though, he was able to appear and disappear suddenly. The fleshly bodies that he materialized were not identical from one appearance to the next. Thus, even Jesus’ close friends recognized him only by what he said or did.​”— Watchtower

When Jesus appeared to the apostle Thomas, he took on a body with wound marks. He did this to bolster Thomas’ faith, since Thomas doubted that Jesus had been raised up. — Watchtower

Let’s examine what the Bible actually says about the resurrection of Jesus Christ was He risen in a spiritual form; or was He risen physically from the dead?

The Gospel of John

Jehovah Witnesses say that only Jehovah God (the Father) raised up Jesus Christ, no one else took part in raising Him from the dead. There’s a contradiction with the teachings of the Watchtower because the Lord Jesus said He would raise Himself up from the dead in the Gospel of John.

John 2:18–22 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. (John 10:18)

The context of the above scripture speaks of when the Lord Jesus was confronted by the Pharisees in the temple after Jesus Christ chased the money changers out of the temple, overthrowing their tables. The Pharisees asked Him what sign can you show us that you have the authority to do this. Jesus answers them saying “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up”.

The Pharisees thought Jesus was referring to the actual temple but He was actually speaking of His physical body. Notice He said “I will raise it up” He didn’t mention the Father or the Holy Spirit even though they also raised Him from the dead.

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The Gospel of Luke

The next false teaching of Jehovah Witnesses is that when Jesus Christ was seen He was a spirit and was not physically risen from the dead. We have an account from the Gospel of Luke in chapter 24 known as the road to Emmaus. In this account, some disciples were on their way to a village called Emmaus and encountered the risen Christ.

The Lord Jesus appeared unto one of the disciples and Cleopas asking them why are they sad? And they not knowing it was Jesus told Him what happened in Jerusalem and how a prophet named Jesus was crucified (Luke 24:18–24). Afterwards, the Lord Jesus opened up the scriptures and explained everything to them starting from Moses, the prophets and Himself.

They asked Jesus to come into the village and stay the evening with them and while He sat and had a meal with them He blessed it, and brake, and gave them food. At this time their eyes were opened and realised who He was but He vanished out of their sight (Luke 24:28–31).

The two disciples then returned to Jerusalem and told the others and while they spake the Lord Jesus appeared again unto them and they were all afraid because they thought they seen a spirit. It’s at this moment Jesus Christ says something which is in direct opposition to the Watchtower He says.

Luke 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you see that I have.

Notice the disciples made a mistake and thought He was a spirit but the Lord Jesus Christ tells them to touch Him because a spirit doesn’t have flesh and bones. He was physically there before them not as a spirit like the Watchtower would have Jehovah Witnesses to believe. Jesus Christ proved to them that He bodily rose from the dead defeating death and hell, and He showed them the nail prints in His hands and feet as proof.

But what about the last statement from the Watchtower as to Jesus Christ showing Thomas His wound marks as they say.

When Jesus appeared to the apostle Thomas, he took on a body with wound marks. He did this to bolster Thomas’ faith, since Thomas doubted that Jesus had been raised up. — Watchtower

If this were true that the Lord Jesus was a spirit body only after His resurrection as the Watchtower claims and showed Thomas His wounds making Thomas to believe He was a physical body when He was not would be saying that Jesus Christ was deceiving them. God forbid! The Lord Jesus Christ is sinless and therefore it would be impossible for Him to lie because He’s God in the flesh.

Father and Holy Spirit

Other scriptures proving the Father and Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead together are found in (Acts 2:32,33, Romans 6:4, Galatians 1:1, 1 Peter 3:18).

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

If you’d like to learn more about the false teachings of the Watchtower and Jehovah Witnesses, here are two sites with more information.

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https://www.jwfacts.com/

 

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https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

And if you’re one of Jehovah Witnesses our prayer is that you would look into the claims made by the Watchtower and test them according to God’s word the Bible and see for yourself. If you have the wrong Jesus Christ you’ll be wrong for all eternity lost in hell are you willing to allow a group of men called the governing body play with your eternal salvation?

Do you want everlasting life, would you like to know for certain that you can have all your sins forgiven and a home in heaven? The Bible answers this very question.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 8:31–32 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

EXAMINING CULTS (Cooperites)

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1 Corinthians 2:14 “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.”

This one’s a special write up for me, a few years ago I moved overseas from North America to a faraway land in the southwestern Pacific ocean; the country of New Zealand. The country of New Zealand is comprised of 2 land masses, the north and the south island.

I lived in Wellington overlooking the Cook Strait towards the south island. Never knowing that mere 8-10 hours distance was a cult located in Haupiri.

GLORIAVALE

Gloriavale is a small isolated cult group and has an estimated population of over five hundred. They own a small airline called Air West Coast the airport the plane frequents is right across the water from where I lived, it’s a good chance I’ve seen it before.

Haupiri is located in the West Coast region of New Zealand’s South Island.

While the group keeps isolated to themselves they own a variety of businesses in order to keep the community going, from what I know they run a small airline, milk and cheese production, they also put on shows for anyone interested in visiting.

New Zealand’s landscape is beautiful full of lush green trees, misty mountain ranges, valleys, meadows and crystal clear water, plenty of places to relax and be among wildlife. The community complex is located in a peaceful valley one may not realise its the home of a cult far removed from the world.

WHO ARE THE COOPERITES

The group was founded in 1969 by the late Neville Cooper (aka “Hopeful Christian”), an Australian preacher who came to New Zealand. He made what became known as the Springbank Christian Community near Christchurch.

The community grew too large for the property and bought land on the West Coast and later moved there in 1995. They named their new property in the Haupiri Valley “Gloriavale” and established the Gloriavale Christian Community.

Gloriavale leader dies Tuesday 15 May, 2018 at age 92 

Cooper was a known sex offender and was brought up on charges in 1995 he and served 11 months in prison. Former member Yvette Olsen said Cooper sexually assaulted her on multiple occasions at 19 years of age. She said he’s a man of “unbridled lust”, a “dirty old man”.

His son Phil Cooper a former member of Gloriavale escaped the cult taking his then-wife along with him only for his wife to return forsaking him and their children in order to come back to the cult. Phil Cooper mentioned he also was sexually abused by his dad when he was a teenager, the memories of what transpired still trouble him years later.

A former member of Gloriavale said most of the families living in the secretive cult are not aware of their leader’s sex abuse conviction and believe he was jailed for preaching the gospel.

Elijah Overcomer was evicted from Gloriavale after questioning leader Christian over his conviction for indecent assault on young women.

GLORIAVALE BELIEFS

The secretive group heavily relies on communal living everything they know of is in the community of Gloriavale. All of their families, friends, work every part of their life is invested in Gloriavale they know nothing else.

Salvation

GV says: We believe that the Church at Gloriavale is one local church in the whole body of believers, wherever they may be. And while we know that we are not the only Christians around, we still want to be only Christians, and nothing more. We do not believe that this is the only Church where people can gain salvation, but it is our local church, and part of the body of Christ…

Bible says: We have salvation through the ransom sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ, it’s because of Him, He is the author of eternal salvation (Hebrews 5:9). This statement alone qualifies them as a cult because they place their faith in a church and not in the Son of God.

Acts 4:12 “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

Head coverings 

GV says: Head coverings such as scarves are worn as a sign to the angels that a woman has placed herself in submission to the authority of the man.

It has been the custom among Christian people for centuries for men to remove their hats when entering a place of worship, and for women to have their heads covered. Only in the last century did these traditions start to change with the fashions of the world, but the scriptural basis for it is something we acknowledge and obey. In the same chapter of Corinthians, we are taught that men should have short hair while the women should grow their hair long.

Bible says: Gloriavale teaches that a woman must cover their head, I also agree with that but the difference is that the woman in the cult remain covered at all times. This is not a requirement the only time a woman should be covered is when the church comes together. In the case of Gloriavale the members are always together living in a community. While that may be so they’re not always worshipping God, that’s when a woman is required to cover her head. Is she always praying 24/7? Even the most spiritual must confess that they’re not always praying to God.

1 Corinthians 11:3–5 “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God. Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.”

It goes unto say in the same epistle “…is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?” (1 Corinthians 11:13) This proves the men and women of Gloriavale are a cult relying on their own works to merit favour from God.

Do you have to live in a community to be a Christian?

GV says: No, but our community life has many advantages for Christians, who should live together in order to keep the commands of the Sermon on the Mount and other scriptures. Why would a Christian not want to live among others who share the same faith? In heaven, we will all live together in the mansions Jesus is building for us, we will all wear the same kind of clothes, and will all be perfectly submitted to the Word of God. Shouldn’t we then be doing these things as much as possible now? We have found that any arguments against living in community come down to arguments in favour of selfishness, self-will, or love of the world. One of the greatest blessings of community life is having brethren available to help and strengthen each other. If people can show us a better way of keeping the commands that Jesus has given us, we will be very happy to see it.

Bible says: The above statement has some truth but dig deeper there’s more under the surface. Yes, there are advantages for Christians being around one another (fellowship), but the Bible speaks “community life” or “wearing the same clothing”. The church comes together not lives together “If therefore the whole church be come together into one place” (1 Corinthians 14:23). The context of the verse is when believers come together. Additionally, the Sermon on the Mount has nothing to do with any of these topics.

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GV says: Our source of authority on all matters of faith and life is the New Testament of the Bible.

Bible says: This is simply not true, their source is the Bible filtered through one man Neville Cooper who has taken the word of God and twisted it in order to have complete control over these individuals.

ESCAPED FROM GLORIAVALE, A RELIGIOUS CULT

Lilia Tarawa is 27 years old, Cooper’s granddaughter she grew up in Gloriavale most of her life and has left the cult with her parents. It’s a sad story because here’s a child who was raised in a cult that when under the guise of Christianity and has caused damage and tainted what true Christianity is to the point of pushing her away from God.

After leaving Gloriavale Lilia wrote her own book titled “Daughter of Gloriavale: My Life in a Religious Cult”. What’s become of Lilia Tarawa after leaving the cult and submerging herself in the ways of the world? I think the next few phrases will sum it up.

My life’s work Liberation, courage & purpose (www.liliatarawa.com)

“At heart I am a freedom-seeking, ever learning student of life who loves spreading messages of life-altering liberation.”

“Shackle-breaking, mind-bending, life-giving freedom.”

“For the first time in ages, I felt peace. Yoga saved me.”

“My business coach introduced me to Dr John Demartini, a gifted human behavioural specialist, with modalities to rebalance psychological imbalances and heal unhealed wounds.”

“I invested thousands of hours and dollars in courses, coaching and resources to answer one burning question, Who am I? You are the answer to your question, Danielle La Porte reminded me.”

Dreams & Aspirations All that is to come

“During worship meetings, I tuned out of boring sermons by reading Old Testament Bible stories.”

“I read encyclopedias to learn about life outside Gloriavale.”

“Yoga has a dedicated place of honour on my Instagram. Each time I visit the mat, my practice is a mirror for my past, present and future.”

“I plan to complete a yoga teacher training to supplement my practice, then teach retreats across the world.”

“During my adventures, I encountered thought leaders who greatly influenced me.”

“Oprah Winfrey, Brendon Burchard, Gary Vaynerchuk, and Sam Harris, to name a few.”

“I would love to speak on-stage with Danielle La Porte or Oprah Winfrey or any of my mentors.”

How I live life By Lilia Tarawa

“I have no desire to fit into what society wants me to be. I am cultivating a mindset of bravery by living on the edge.”

“The universe second chanced me a life I never dreamed possible.”

“Today I am sitting at my kitchen table in ripped tights and a woollen sweater over denim shorts.”

“I am sporting Tommy Hilfiger eye-wear on rouge coloured cheeks framed by an edgy fringe.”

“My ring-embellished fingers flit across the keyboard of a sleek Mac.”

“The picture screams 21st-century modern woman. That is accurate!”

“I am an indie rock-loving, whiskey drinking, sci-fi obsessed, agnostic with a deep interest in human potential.”

“Shortly, I shall be boarding a flight to teach audiences about leadership, self-respect and confidence.”

“As my fellow TEDxChristchurch speaker, Dr. David Galler says in his talk A touching glimpse into the mystery of death, ‘Too often we put our eggs in an afterlife basket.”

“We waste entire lives waiting for utopia and forgetting that heaven and hell are both here in the present moment.”

“Life is part of dying and death is a part of living. It is the two-sided coin of reality.”

“One day the grim reaper will collect. That reality check is the reason I phone my best friend, Grace Hoover, each morning to say; I love you.”

“I would hate to lie on my deathbed regretting what I did not do.”

Life after Gloriavale Finding my feet 

“The thought was foreign to me. That is when I realised, [insert profanity]! I am free.”

“I got cosy with brands like L’Oreal, Victoria Secret, Levi, MAC, Chuck Taylor, Tommy Hilfiger and Adidas.”

“I was wearing figure-hugging jeans, lipstick and stilettos.”

“The world was my oyster, but I had not a clue where to go.”

I grew up in a cult. It was heaven — and hell.

Beliefs Religious & spiritual

“My beliefs changed immensely in the years following our departure from Gloriavale.”

“I remained a Christian, tried a few churches, found one I was comfortable with and made friends there.”

“I settled for a while, but curiosity tugged me. My life was mine to choose now.”

“I wanted to find the real Lilia who’d hidden behind uniforms and downcast eyes.”

“Womanhood ran hot in my blood. My body took me to places the church forbade me. The loss of my virginity liberated me from the shackles of church rules.”

“My shelves filled with books by Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Grant Cardone, J.R. Ward and Tony Robbins.”

“I read biology, psychology, theology, spirituality, philosophy and physics.”

“Music was my Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Universe. I listened to 50 Cent, Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Metallica, Celine Dion, and Hillsong.”

“I travelled abroad to experience the cultures of other humans.”

“I was breaking many Christian laws, such as befriending gays.”

“My wholesome friendships with them forced me to recognise the many Christian doctrines which separated, rather than united humanity.”

“No creed is flawless, but I met too many Christians who professed theirs to be.”

“They ignored the defects of Christian teaching, using the word ‘faith’ as an excuse for non-thinking and dogma.”

“Is God even real? Also, if he is incomprehensible, how did we stuff ‘him’ in a gender box?”

“How can the abuse of children, which is an inherent part of Christian doctrine, be condoned? Spare the rod, spoil the child, the Bible read.”

“I do not live by conservative Christian doctrine. I have a science-based worldview.”

“In 2017 I attended a conference where Lyle MacWilliam proclaimed, Contrary to common belief. Science is not a truth cast in stone. It is a way of thinking.”

“As I have learned, science is a mindset that says, We can always ask a better question to find a better answer.” — Lilia Tarawa

It’s quite evident the damage Neville Cooper’s cult caused in this one individual, while she was always confused as to what true Christianity is because Gloriavale is not Christian by any means, she went from one wrong extreme to the other wrong extreme.

1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”

How true this is to see a young woman who at one time in her life really thought she was living for God but was deceived into a life of legalism and cultic ways e.g. matching uniforms navy-blue, ankle-length dresses and white headscarves (Women), blue trousers and shirts (Men), mini versions of the compulsory garb (Children).

This experience changed her into a person (in her own words) who’s now practising fornication, yoga, who placed her faith in science and atheist. How far the pendulum has swung! How many others have found themselves in the same situation as she or will soon find themselves because of this cult?

As a Christian is saddening because at one time she genuinely cared about reading the Bible and knowing about God but it was tainted by a man who had an agenda and that was to rule with an iron fist.

Lilia during her baptism at Gloriavale Christian Community at 10 years old.

CONCLUSION

Just as other cults many innocent individuals are being damaged by false doctrine. These victims were once zealous and sincere about what they believed but they were deceived by wicked men and sincerely wrong. This is why it’s of the utmost importance to be born again and remain in God’s word so that when you come across false doctrine.

We need to reach out to individuals who’re entrapped by these groups, many of them truly want a relationship with God but have fallen for another Jesus, another spirit and another gospel. They’re completely unaware and are in need of the true Gospel of Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

My hope is that Lilia Tarawa and others come to know the true God of the Bible, that He gave Himself as a ransom for their sins that they may live. This world is plagued with many distractions which satan uses keep people in bondage and away from the true gospel. Religion doesn’t save, only a person saves, one perfect person and that’s the Lord Jesus Christ.

Matthew 11:28–30 “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

God bless

EXAMINING CULTS (Christian Science)

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1 Timothy 3:15 “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”

There’s a good chance you’ve never heard about Christian Science if not don’t feel bad many haven’t. What is Christian Science and where did it come from and is it truly Christian? That’s the question we’re concerned with.

EARLY BEGINNINGS

Mary Baker Eddy was born Mary Morse Baker in Bow, New Hampshire to farmer Mark Baker and his wife Abigail Barnard Baker. Eddy was the youngest of six children: Mark Baker was a religious man from a Protestant background and firm believer in the Bible. Eddy and her father didn’t have the best of relationships. Her father was reported to hand out harsh punishment towards her with her mother at sometimes coming in-between.

Eddy would experience periods of illness she would suddenly fall to the floor, becoming unconscious for hours sometimes. She also may have suffered from an eating disorder.

Founder of Christian Science cult: Mary Morse Baker

In 1862 Eddy became a patient of Phineas Quimby, a magnetic healer from Maine. Quimby and Eddy engaged in discussions about healing methods practised, it’s a good chance that’s where she acquired her influence. Quimby conducted hypnotic treatments of her physical conditions. Eddy then dabbled in spiritualism even claiming to have channelled the spirit of Abraham Lincoln. She also had beliefs in Hinduism and Eastern religions, from the Christian Science website we read.

Mary Baker Eddy (1821–1910) considered herself a spiritual pioneer whose work encompassed the disciplines of science, theology, and medicine.

A lifelong student of the Bible, she gained a powerful insight in 1866 when she experienced a dramatic recovery from a life-threatening accident after reading Jesus’ healings. From that pivotal moment, she sought an understanding of how she had been healed. She returned to the Bible and prayed for answers. It became clear to her that spiritual healing was based on divine laws of God, Spirit, and that these laws could be applied by anyone to heal every form of human suffering and sin. — www.christianscience.com

TENENTS OF CHRISTIAN SCIENCE

CS says: God is infinite . . . and there is no other power or source, S&H 471:18. 

Bible says: While Christians will agree that God is infinite/eternal the other half of the above statement is not true. We read that there are thrones, and dominions and principalities and powers.

Ephesians 1:21 “Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:”

Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].”

Colossians 1:16 “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:”

Verses proving there are other powers besides God Himself are: Daniel 10:20–21, 2 Corinthians 11:14, Philippians 2:9–10, Jude 1:9, Revelation 12:9 

CS says: God is Universal Principle, S&H 331:18–19. 

Bible says: God’s word says that the Father is God, a person that He’s Holy righteous and just; not a universal principle or idea?!

1 Samuel 2:2 “[There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is] none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.”

Psalms 96:9 “O worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth.”

John 4:24 “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

1 Peter 1:16 “Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.”

CS says: God cannot indwell a person, S&H 336:19–20. 

Bible says: John chapter 14 speaks on quite the opposite stating believers do have God indwelling in them, speaking of the Holy Spirit (Comforter) who is God. Additionally, the scriptures identifies the Holy Spirit as “He”.

John 14:16, 17 “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”

John 16:13 “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

CS says: God is the only intelligence in the universe, including man S&H 330:11–12. 

Bible says: God is not the only “intelligence in the universe” if that were so then we as mankind born in sin wouldn’t need a Saviour, there would be no need for the sacrifice of the Son of God who I’m eternally grateful for. If the above statement were true the satan, angels and mankind could never be held responsible for their actions. That’s why God tells us to repent to have a change of mind.

Repent — μετανοέω metanoéō, met-an-o-eh’-o; from G3326 and G3539; to think differently or afterwards, i.e. reconsider (morally, feel compunction): — repent.

CS says: God is Mind, S&H 330:20–21; 469:13.

Bible says: God is not “Mind” He’s a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth (John 4:24). A mind cannot be called “He” or “Him” or “Father”.

CS says: God is the Father-Mother, S&H l 331:30; 332:4. 

Bible says: The whole “Mother” rubbish comes from paganism all of the “mother earth” and gaia paganism looking to make creation god. There is no mother god in the Bible that’s a fiction of Mary Baker Eddy’s imagination.

Eddy disagreed with the foundational doctrines of Christianity writing her own “bible” called Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures filled with Gnostic and Freemasonic ideas

CS says: The Trinity is Life, Truth, and Love, S&H 331:26. 

Bible says: “Life, Truth and Love” aren’t persons, the “Trinity” or Godhead as the correct biblical terminology is that God is 3 distinct persons all 1 God having the same divine nature.

Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: ”

John 15:26 “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:”

1 John 5:7–8 “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. ”

CS says: Jesus was not the Christ, S&H 333:3–15; 334:3.

Bible says: How can Christian Science call themselves such when they deny The Lord Jesus Christ Himself? In all of the scriptures, we read that Jesus is the Christ.

1 Timothy 2:5 “For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; ”

Acts 2:38 “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”

Hebrews 13:8 “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”

And this is the dividing truth which makes Christian Science or any other group or sect that denies the deity of The Lord Jesus Christ a cult. All cults deny Him in some way and divert either slightly or tremendously in beliefs as is the case here.

CS says: “Jesus Christ is not God, as Jesus himself declared . . . ” S&H 361:12–13. 

Bible says: The Lord Jesus Himself did say He is God, He proved it by the miracles He performed He told the Pharisees who He was and they killed Him because of the claims He made being the Son of God, God in the flesh. This verse in Isaiah speaking of the Lord Jesus says:

Isaiah 9:6 “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

John 1:1–3 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”

John 8:58 “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

Verses speaking of Christ Jesus as God are: John 10:30, John 1:14, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Colossians 1:15–17, John 20:28, John 14:9, John 1:2, John 14:6, John 5:19–29 

CS says: Jesus did not reflect the fullness of God, S&H 336:20–21. 

Bible says: Once again they contradict God’s word, in Colossians it specifically mentions He that is the Lord Jesus has the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Colossians 2:9 “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”

John 3:34 “For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.”

CS says: Jesus did not die, S&H 45:32–46:3. 

Bible says: The Lord Jesus said Himself that He was dead and is now alive, dead couldn’t hold Him.

Revelation 1:18 “I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”

Psalms 16:10 “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”

Acts 2:24 “Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.”

Other outrageous unbiblical beliefs from Christian Science are:

  1. The Holy Spirit is divine science, S&H 331:31.
  2. There is no devil, S&H 469:13–17.
  3. There is no sin, S&H 447:24.
  4. Evil and good are not real, S&H 330:25–27; 470:9–14.
  5. “Matter, sin, and sickness are not real, but only illusions,” S&H 335:7–15; 447:27–28.
  6. “Life is not material or organic,” S&H 83:21.
  7. “The sacrifice of Jesus was not sufficient to cleanse from sin,” S&H 25:6.
  8. “True healings are the result of true belief,” S&H 194:6. 

As we see the heresy is off the charts, Mary Baker Eddy rejects foundational Christian doctrines in regards to angels and devils, heaven and hell, worst of all the denial of the atonement of Christ’s crucifixion etc. Eddy attempts to intermingle Gnostic teachings with a “Christian” beliefs.

The later epistles address this very reason, Gnostic teachings were threatening the early church. The Apostle John wrote 1 John in order to oppose the early Gnostics. The following verses tell us ungodly men tried infiltrating the church and we see the rotten fruit of its teachings today.

1 John 4:2 “Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: ”

Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. ”

1 Timothy 6:20–21 “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith…”

Jude 1:4 “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.”

Eddy’s methods are seen as derived from Phineas Quimby.

LETTER FROM EDDY

Writing a letter to the Portland Evening Courier stating, “that Christ was the cure:” and while Christ is the cure she didn’t understand that He was the cure for sin, to grant unto us eternal life for those who believe.

Christian Science is a dangerous practice because there are cases in which individuals had curable diseases but because they placed their faith in the teachings of Eddy who teaches “sickness are not real, but only illusions” then you never need a doctor or medicine. I’m a firm believer that doctor visits or medicine isn’t always the answer or necessary but the option should never be off the table.

The Christian Science follower solely believes that you can heal all illnesses and diseases by faith and prayer. As a Christian myself I absolutely believe prayer works but we shouldn’t negate other resources for our health. Its the same idea the Jehovah Witnesses have when it comes to them being against blood transfusions.

VICTIMS OF FAITH HEALING

These cases show the need to remove religious exemptions from child health care requirements. Surely they illustrate the fact that the state cannot always protect children with court orders. People have many inhibitions about reporting child abuse. — childrenshealthcare.org

Ian Lundman, age 11

Ian Lundman, age 11, died of diabetes in 1989 in suburban Minneapolis. His father had left Christian Science, but did not have custody. The boy lost weight and became lethargic. A school official noticed a fruity odor on Ian’s breath, a classic diabetes symptom, but did not recognize it as such nor did she know his mother and stepfather had religious beliefs against medical care.

They retained a Christian Science practitioner for spiritual treatment of Ian’s illness. The practitioner billed them $446 for his prayers over two days.

An unlicensed Christian Science nurse sat by Ian’s bedside for the last five hours of his life as he lay in a diabetic coma. She knew that he did not respond to anyone. She observed his vomiting, labored breathing, excessive urination, facial spasms, and clenched teeth. Nevertheless, her concept of care was to give him drops of water through a straw and to tie a sandwich bag and washcloth around his scrotum. She did not call for medical help or ask his mother to obtain it. Read full story here — childrenshealthcare.org 

Neil Beagley, age 16

Sixteen-year-old son Neil Beagley became very ill shortly after the death of his little niece Ava in March, 2008. His parents Jeff and Marci Beagley were members of the Followers of Christ congregation in Oregon who eschew medical care in favor of communal prayer, the laying on of hands, and anointing with olive oil. Neil’s aunt reported to the Department of Human Services that Neil’s throat was closed up, he was having trouble breathing, and she was afraid he might die. Marci later testified that she too was afraid Neil would die but did not express that fear to the DHS worker who visited the home. Instead, both parents asserted that Neil only had a cold or perhaps a case of the flu. Read full story here — childrenshealthcare.org 

Matthew Swan, age 16 months 

Matthew Swan, age 16 months, died of spinal meningitis in 1977 in Detroit, Michigan. His parents, Doug and Rita Swan, both lifelong Christian Scientists, retained Christian Science practitioners for spiritual “treatments.”

The practitioners repeatedly said they were healing Matthew. Symptoms were reinterpreted as evidence of healing. For example, one practitioner who observed the baby’s convulsions said he might be “gritting his teeth” because he was “planning some great achievement.” The practitioners demanded more faith and gratitude from the Swans. They complained that the Swans’ fears and other sins were obstructing their treatment.

Here are others who became victims to medical neglect on the part of faith healing Austin Amy Robyn Andrew Harrison Nancy Dennis Arrian Zachery Troy Shauntay Rhett. — childrenshealthcare.org

CONCLUSION

Christian Science teaches that man does not have a sinful nature and is a reflection of Divine Mind. “Salvation,” is finding the true reality of understanding revealed in Christian Science teachings from Mary Baker Eddy, the woman who founded the cult in the 1870’s and aren’t from God.

Christian Science has only produced unbiblical and false doctrines. Eternal destruction is the only thing that will result from its false teaching. The fires of hell will be a harsh reality for anyone that’s been taught they don’t exist.

Christian Science followers need salvation they’re lost and dead in sins and are in need of a Saviour which is The Lord Jesus Christ. If you’re a Christian Science believer this is not meant to be hateful towards you it’s to wake you up to the true gospel. The Bible says you can be deceived in believing a false Jesus, spirit and gospel.

2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

We Christian Science followers to come to know the true Jesus Christ, Spirit and Gospel. The Lord Jesus first words in the Gospel of John was “Come and see” (John 1:39), we say the same to you “Come and see”.

Psalms 34:8 “O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.”

Will would come to the Saviour of sinners, the Prince of Peace, the Great Physician? He can pull you out of the darkness and into His glorious light. The Lord Jesus Christ in the Gospel of John said:

John 5:39–5:40 “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.”

Ezekiel 33:11 “Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?”

God bless.

EXAMINING CULTS (Mormons)

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1 John 4:1 “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”

For the Christian, it’s extremely important to know the difference between what’s true and false, light and darkness, righteousness and unrighteousness, godliness and ungodliness. As the Apostle John said “many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). The word of God tells us to “prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21), for the church of God to be a pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15).

Any truth mixed with the slightest lie is no longer truth at all. The reason why cults are so dangerous to believers is that they mix truth with sprinkled lies as to not alarm those who may be ignorant of biblical truth. In this series we will be looking at different cults and seeing if their doctrine/teachings line up with the truth of God’s Holy Word the Bible. Mormon teachings are very dangerous and twisted so be prepared for a strange ride.

MORMON BEGINNINGS

Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon cult aka Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints – LDS.

The Mormon cult began with a man called Joseph Smith, Joseph was born on December 23, 1805 in Vermont. His family then moved to Palmyra, a village in Wayne County, New York. This was the time of the Second Great Awakening, a time when people were eager for something to believe, in the midst of the Protestant movement Joseph Smith brought in heretical teachings.

In his early years he became involved with Methodism, Smith was concerned about his soul and confused by the claims of competing religious beliefs. In 1820 at the age of 14, he went into the woods to pray; and allegedly God the Father and Jesus appeared to him and said not to join any of the denominational churches.

Now it starts to get weird Joseph claimed an angel named “Moroni”, who was supposed to be the “son of Mormon”, the leader of the people called the “Nephites” who lived in the early Americas, appeared and said to him that he was chosen to translate the book of Mormon which was compiled by Moroni’s father around the 4th century. If this were true why would an angel need a human to translate anything when they’re these powerful beings?

The book was written on golden plates and found next to Joseph’s home in Palmyra, New York. As he began to translate the book Joseph claimed that John the Baptist appeared and ordained him to the divine work of restoring the true church by preaching the “true gospel” which, allegedly, was lost from the earth.

After the publication of the Book of Mormon, Mormonism began grew and the religion was so divergent from Christianity, i.e., multiple of gods, polygamy (Joseph had 27 wives), etc. Joseph ended up in jail and killed by an angry mob.

SECOND FOUNDER

All cults seem to have 2 founders one who starts the cult typically a charismatic individual and the second afterwards who lays the remaining foundation helping the movement to grow.

2nd President of The Mormon cult aka Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints — LDS 

Brigham Young an American religious leader, politician, settler and second president of The LDS cult. He brought the Mormon teachings to Salt Lake City. Young went by many nicknames the most popular being “American Moses” he also went by “Modern Moses” or “Mormon Moses” due to him leading his followers to Utah. A polygamist he had 55 wives and instituted a ban against the priesthood of black African men.

After assuming the leadership role of the Mormons, leading them to Salt Lake Utah which at the time located in Mexico; outside of the then United States territory. He placed the people in harsh conditions so that they could only rely upon themselves to survive, it was a strategic move on Young’s part to have complete control over all of the followers.

WHAT DO MORMONS TEACH?

Mormonism is called the religion of the Americas because it has no roots in Biblical Christianity, it doesn’t come from the Hebrew or Greek text and is never mentioned in the Bible. It touts “another testament of Jesus Christ” as the subtitle of the book of Mormon suggest.

But does it agree with God’s word or does it contradict? In the book of Acts, we have an account of Paul the Apostle visiting the synagogue in Berea to preach the Gospel, the Bereans searched the scriptures to be certain of what they heard to be true and we should always do the same.

Acts 17:10, 11 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Atonement

Mormons say:Jesus paid for all our sins when He suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane,” (Laurel Rohlfing, “Sharing Time: The Atonement,” Friend, Mar. 1989, p. 39.).

The Bible: 1 Peter 2:24 “Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.”

Where do Mormons get the idea that the Lord Jesus paid for our sins somewhere else besides the cross of Calvary? When the Lord Jesus came to Gethsemane and was sorrowful is was not that He was atoning for our sins at the garden.

Matthew 26:36–39 “Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy. Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

He was grieved not because He was wishing not to go to the cross, the Lord Jesus Christ was ready, willing and able to give himself as a ransom on the rugged tree. There was no turning back for Him being the Prince of Life, God in the flesh, He set His face like a flint toward Jerusalem (Isaiah 50:5–9). Nothing was going to deter Him from the cross.

Matthew 26:42 “He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.”

The reason why He was sorrowful is He knew what He would endure before the cross, that sinful men would come and lay hands on Him in the hours leading up to the cross.

Matthew 26:45 “Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.”

Mormons say: “We accept Christ’s atonement by repenting of our sins, being baptized, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and obeying all of the commandments,” (Gospel Principles, Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1979, p. 68.).

The Bible: Mormons try to add works as a means of receiving salvation, notice for them it’s not just trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they add baptism and obeying all of the commandments. What does the word of God say in regards to our works? Our righteousness are filthy rags before a Holy and righteous God.

Isaiah 64:6 “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.”

Romans 3:19, 20 “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Galatians 2:16 “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

Baptism

Mormons say: Baptism for the dead, (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. II, p. 141). This is a practice of baptizing each other in place of non-Mormons who are now dead. Their belief is that in the afterlife, the “newly baptized” person will be able to enter into a higher level of Mormon heaven.

The Bible: Notice the above statement says “Mormon heaven”, not God’s heaven but “Mormon’s heaven”. I tell you friend Mormon heaven doesn’t exist. Nowhere in scripture does God ever say that a person can be baptised for a dead person. This is strictly a Mormon teaching and you will never find it in the Holy Bible. There is a contradiction from the Mormon teaching because God says you die once then you stand before the judge.

If you die in your sins then you’re lost for all eternity, but if you’re saved because of placing your faith in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus, you can have life eternal in heaven.

Hebrews 9:27 “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”

Matthew 18:8, 9 “Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.”

Luke 9:60 “Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.”

Notice the Lord Jesus never said anything about baptising ones-self for a dead person, we all get one chance and that’s all. This is why it’s extremely important to be born again, to be saved by God’s grace.

THE HOLY BIBLE 

Mormons say: “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. . .” (8th Article of Faith of the Mormon Church).

“Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God,” (1 Nephi 13:28).

The Bible: Mormons will state that they believe in the word of God while at the same time say it was somehow corrupted, mistranslated, scriptures missing/taken away etc. They doubt the preservation of God’s word, therefore, they don’t believe God can prevent His word from being somehow corrupted. The word of God says His word endures forever.

The Bible is God’s Word (Old and New Testament)

Psalms 119:89 “LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.”

Matthew 24:35 “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”

1 Peter 1:25 “But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”

The Book of Mormon

Mormons say: The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, (History of the Church, 4:461).

The Mormon cult book titled “Another Testament” (false testament).

The Bible: This proves the point above in which Mormons aren’t Christian and are a cult because they teach that their book is superior to the Bible. Cults will typically say they believe the Bible but will then say you must read something outside of the Bible. ie book of Mormon, Watchtower, Awake etc. Mormons place their faith in false books in which they deem scripture such as the erroneous uninspired book called “Pearl of Great Price”.

“A Selection from the Revelations, Translations, and Narrations of Joseph Smith First Prophet, Seer, and Revelator to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” — LDS (Pearl of Great Price)

The Devil

Mormons say: The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus “in the morning of pre-existence,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).

The Bible: The Lord Jesus Christ was never born biologically He’s always existed. The Mormon cult falls into the same error as the Jehovah Witnesses. When the Bible speaks of “firstborn” or “begotten” in the context of Christ Jesus our Lord it’s referring to His position, not a biological birth. The Old Testament does speak of biological birth but upon understanding the scriptures God gives us spiritual truths of things to come.

For instance, David is called the firstborn but we read in the book of Samuel that he had older brothers therefore biologically we can conclude that it’s not speaking of his birth but position.

Psalms 89:27 “Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.”

The firstborn of Joseph was Manasseh and second Ephraim but the reverse order is spoken of in terms of birthright in Genesis.

Genesis 41:51–52 “And Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh: For God, said he, hath made me forget all my toil, and all my father’s house. And the name of the second called he Ephraim: For God hath caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction.”

Jeremiah 31:9 “They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.”

The Lord Jesus spoken of as the firstborn proclaims not an actual birth but His position as before all and above all, the book of Colossians puts it beautifully when speaking of His eternal existence as God. Last but not least the Devil was not “born” he’s a created being the anointed Cherub an angel to be exact.

Colossians 1:15–18 “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”

Ezekiel 28:13–19 “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.”

Mormons say: “According to our teachings, Satan and an army of supporters were cast down to earth from the premortal spirit world. They are spirit brothers of ours, and are real persons having spirit bodies” (Joseph F. Merrill, Conference Reports, April 1941, p. 49).

The Bible: Satan is an angel and so were the other 3/4’s who followed him, they’re not our brothers how can that be when God says in Genesis “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:”. The angels are not created in the image of God according to His likeness. Additionally, God breathed into Adam the breath of life making us a living soul. The Bible never speaks of an angel being created in the same manner.

Genesis 2:7 “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”

Mormons say: “On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some — especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel ‘who was in authority in the presence of God,’ a ‘son of the morning.’ (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)” (Jess L. Christensen, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, June 1986, p. 25).

The Bible: This is complete blasphemy on the part of Mormonism, to say that the creator of all things would be Satan’s brother is a grievous error. If Satan is an angel (created being) he cannot be the Lord Jesus’s brother. In the book of John speaking of the Lord Jesus it says:

John 1:1–3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Take notice that it says “all things were made by him” that includes all the angels, therefore Satan cannot be His brother, the scriptures are very clear.

Mormons say: “A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus’ plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to “deny men their agency and to dethrone god,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).

The Bible: It’s astounding the fallacies cults will create in order to make their theology work. You will not find anything in the Bible about presenting salvation plans to the Father. The plan of redemption was not an afterthought for God, He was not surprised and therefore needed to figure something out. No! God knows all things and was not taken off guard.

1 Peter 1:20 “Who verily was foreordeined before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you.”

Revelation 13:8 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

Who is God?

Mormons say: God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613–614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).

The Bible: Another lie spoken by this cult. Nowhere in the Hebrew or Greek text will you find anything about the Father being a man from another planet. This is complete heresy on the part of Joseph Smith.

Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”

John 4:24 “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

Mormons say: “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s . . . “ (D&C 130:22).

The Bible: Once again we have to refer back to John 4:24 which speaks of “God as a Spirit”. Do not be confused the Lord Jesus is God, but we’re speaking of God the Father. We have to remember that God consists of 3 distinct person’s. Not 3 Gods. 1 God consisting of 3 distinct person’s all sharing the same divine nature (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).

I myself don’t use the term “Trinity” only because the Bible never uses that word, I use the word Godhead which is Biblical in reference to the New Testament. Nevertheless, the doctrine of the Trinity is Biblical.

Godhead — θεῖος theîos, theios; from G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): — divine, godhead.

  1. a general name of deities or divinities as used by the Greeks 
  2. spoken of the only and true God, trinity
  3. of Christ
  4. Holy Spirit
  5. the Father 

On the same note the Old Testament (written in Hebrew) which never uses the word Godhead (Greek) does use the name God, and the name God speaks to a plurality.

God — אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlôhîym, elohiym; plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates.

  1. (plural)
  2. rulers, judges
  3. divine ones
  4. angels
  5. gods (lowercase “g” always signifies false god(s) in biblical terms)
  6. (plural intensive — singular meaning)
  7. god, goddess (lowercase “g” signifies false god(s) in biblical terms)
  8. godlike one
  9. works or special possessions of God
  10. the (true) God
  11. God

Mormons say: “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).

The Bible: This is the first lie ever told beginning with Satan in the garden of Eden when he uttered in Genesis 3:1 “…Yea, hath God said,…” creating doubt in the mind of Eve. Satan said:

Genesis 3:4, 5 “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”

And Satan continues to deceive people with this same lie in Mormonism, Hinduism, New Age etc.

Mormons say: God the Father had a Father, (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104–105).

The Bible: And the nonsense continues, God is eternal never having a beginning never having an end, Mormon doctrine is in direct contradiction to God’s word. When Moses asked God on Mount Sinai God said:

Exodus 3:14 “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”

Psalms 90:2 “Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou [art] God.”

1 Timothy 1:17 “Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.”

God, becoming a god

Mormons say: After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345–347, 354.)

The Bible: Once again oldest lie from the devil himself than men can become gods, this is just not true read Genesis 3:4, 5. Satan lied to Eve and that was the beginning of the downfall of man, once she made her husband Adam to eat of the forbidden fruit.

God, many gods

Mormons say: There are many gods, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).

The Bible: There are many false gods, there’s only one true God and that’s the God of the Holy Scriptures, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. The Bible speaks of false gods/idols.

Revelation 9:20 “And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:”

Mormons say: “And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light,” (Book of Abraham 4:3).

The Bible: This is very important here because you’ll notice, Mormons believe in more than 1 God. In the above statement, you’ll notice Gods an “s” on the end. True Christians who believe in the Godhead do not believe in 3 Gods. We believe in 1 God consisting of 3 distinct persons (Father, Son and Holy Spirit).

1 John 5:7 “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

God, mother goddess

Mormons say: There is a mother god, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443). God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).

The Bible: There’s no such thing as “mother god” in the Bible, neither is there any such thing as “mother nature”. These are all pagan concepts stemming from Greek mythology, false gods such as “Gaia”. Paganism was rampant back then people worshipped idols and even sacrificed their children.

The people in Ephesus were angry with the Apostle Paul because he spoke the truth and preached the Gospel and the people wanted to continue to worship a false goddess by the name of Diana or Artemis.

Acts 19:24 “For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen;”

Acts 19:27 “So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.”

Acts 19:28 “And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.”

Acts 19:34 “But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.”

Acts 19:35 “And when the townclerk had appeased the people, he said, Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshipper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?”

As you can see the Mormons do not worship the true God, and they aren’t Christian at all they’re a cult who claims Christianity but are far from it.

God, Trinity

Mormons say: The Trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).

The Bible: Since the days of the Apostles Christians have been defending the faith against heresies concerning the Godhead as being 3 separate Gods. Christians do not believe there are three separate Gods, we believe in 1 God consisting of 3 distinct persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). The above section “who is God” explains this.

The Gospel

Mormons say: The true gospel was lost from the earth. Mormonism is its restoration, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 182–185.)

The Bible: If this were so then Mormons must believe that since the day the Lord Jesus rose from the dead in resurrection power and ascended up on high into heaven, from that day forward until Joseph Smith all people were lost meaning going to hell (while Mormons don’t necessarily believe in hell they do believe in outer darkness). The gospel was never “lost” the gospel in simplest words are “Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners”. Mormonism tries to place Joseph Smith as saviour and he is not.

Isaiah 43:11 “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.”

Heaven

Mormons say: There are three levels of heaven: telestial, terrestrial, and celestial, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 348).

The Bible: The scriptures of the Bible never mention such places, it does mention the sky, stars, moon and sun. But never places Mormons teach.

Deuteronomy 33:26 “There is none like unto the God of Jeshurun, who rideth upon the heaven in thy help, and in his excellency on the sky.”

Psalms 8:3 “When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;”

Revelation 22:5 “And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.”

The Holy Ghost

Mormons say: The Holy Ghost is a male personage, A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, (Le Grand Richards, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 179).

The Bible: While the Holy Ghost is a person (Acts 5:3, 4, Acts 13:2, Hebrews 3:7, John-14:16) He is not “a marvelous work or wonder”. The Holy Ghost is God a distinct person of the Godhead always existed the same as the Father and the Son.

Luke 3:22 “And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”

Jesus Christ of Mormonism

Mormons say: The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).

The Bible: This is a classic example of the heresy of Arianism which other cults like the Jehovah Witnesses, SDA, Christadelphians and Islam believe. They either reduce Him to a created being (angel), or in the case of Islam just a prophet. The Lord Jesus is God, in the Gospel of Luke we have an account of the man possessed by the devil called Legion. The Lord Jesus cast out the unclean spirit and He tells the man:

Luke 8:39 “Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.”

Mormons say: Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8; Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15).

The Bible: The Lord Jesus Christ is the creator of all things, therefore, Satan cannot be His brother because Satan is a created being himself.

Colossians 1:16–18 “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”

Mormons say: Jesus’ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).

The Bible: Mormons don’t believe God’s word because the Bible specifically says in the epistle from John the Apostle that we are cleansed from all sin.

1 John 1:7 “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

Mormons say: “The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood — was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).

The Bible: He was born of a virgin Mary His mother.

Isaiah 7:14 “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”

Joseph Smith

Mormons say: If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 670).

The Bible: Joseph Smith didn’t restore anything all he did was founded a cult which denies the Bible and tries to add to the word of God in every way.

Acts 4:8–12 “Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

Warren S. Jeffs cult founder of FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)

Fruit of the Mormon cult

If one is to ascertain what the Mormon belief produces look no further than Warren S. Jeffs the founder of the FLDS movement, while the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is in some ways different to the LDS. The FLDS practices actually more in line with the teachings of Joseph Smith, in Smith days polygamy was a belief they practised. The FLDS to this day still holds to that practice.

One of the main ones being polygamy Jeffs is a husband to 50 wives. Not only that but it’s also interesting that he was also regarded as a prophet, pretty convenient for him. If anything he was a true follower of Joseph Smith and Mormonism as crazy as that may be.

FLDS cult leader Warren Jeffs and his 50 wives

Pre-existence

Mormons say: We were first begotten as spirit children in heaven and then born naturally on earth, (Journal of Discourse, vol. 4, p. 218).

The Bible: You’ll never find anywhere in the Bible which makes the claim the Mormons make of being “spirit children in Heaven” man was created on the earth, the first being Adam. After God created the earth and all the animals on the land, sea and in the air.

Genesis 1:26 “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

Mormons say: “The Father, Elohim, is called the Father because he is the literal father of the spirits of mortals (Heb. 12:9). This paternity is not allegorical. All individual human spirits were begotten (not created from nothing or made) by the Father in a premortal state, where they lived and were nurtured by Heavenly Parents” (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 2:549).

The Bible: Hebrews 12:9 is taken well out of its context the verse is not saying that we’re begotten of God by biological means, the Lord Jesus is the only begotten of the Father. We (those who are saved) have been translated from the lineage of Adam into the lineage of the last Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45).

In the passage of Hebrews, it’s speaking of how we have human fathers and have experienced the upbringing of our earthly father, now being a child of God when born again and as we at times go through chastening we aren’t to despise it because it’s for our own good and God our Father teaches us through it that we may grow and yield fruits of righteousness. We do not have “Heavenly Parents” as in how we have parents here on earth.

Hebrews 12:5–11 “And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.”

The Prophets

Mormons say: We need prophets today, the same as in the Old Testament, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 444–445).

The Bible: Mormons, as well as many Christians, do not understand that we’re living in a different dispensation. Prophets were used by God in a specific time for the nation of Israel. God used prophets for the nation to deliver His message when they needed instruction or rebuking. But that time has past and we now have the entire canon of scripture.

The Jews needed the prophets at that time because they never had the Old Testament scriptures except for a few scrolls like Isaiah or Jeremiah. They couldn’t open up a Bible and say well let’s look at the Gospels or Epistles. That’s why the book of Hebrews puts it this way.

Hebrews 1:1, 2 “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;”

This verse says it all how God spake using many different ways in time past by the prophets but now in these last days spoken to us by His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. We no longer need any more prophets the Lord Jesus gave us God’s word Himself being God in the flesh. Joseph Smith came long after the prophets and the Lord Jesus. The time of the prophets is over.

Salvation

Mormons say: “One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation,” (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).

The Bible: Mormonism teaches works salvation while at the same time will say they believe in the Bible. That’s a contradiction, if the Bible says the work has been finished fully and completely by the Lord Jesus then nothing more needs to be done. He defeated death at the cross and made salvation possible for all who believe.

John 19:30 “When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.”

Mormons say: A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus’ plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to “deny men their agency and to dethrone god,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).

The Bible: How deceived the LDS are in order for anyone to pass off a ridiculous story such as that you’ll have to toss the Bible out the window and concoct something completely alien to God’s word. You just will not find anything like this in the scriptures it’s completely made up from Joseph Smith.

Mormons say: Jesus’ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).

The Bible: Lies of the devil! The infallible word of God says otherwise. The sacrifice of the spotless Lamb of God was more than enough and covers all sin, past present and future!!!

1 John 1:7 “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

Mormons say: Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92).

The Bible: We read in God’s infallible word that our works are filthy rags, how we are saved by grace through faith. Salvation has nothing to do with us and self-righteousness because we’re sinners, we are not perfect we’re not without sin. We’ve been born in sin and have committed sin and God requires perfection. Only the Lord Jesus is without sin without any blemish. Salvation is a free gift for those who believe.

Isaiah 64:6 “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.”

Ephesians 2:8, 9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Mormons say: There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).

The Bible: This is complete heresy Mormons try to place Joseph Smith in the place of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Bible tosses down their rubbish.

Acts 4:10–13 “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.”

Philippians 2:10 “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;”

The Lord Jesus said “except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish” (Luke 13:3).

Mormons say: “We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do,” (2 Nephi 25:23).

The Bible: Mormons will never have the assurance of salvation because for them it’s “after all we can do”, how will they ever know if they did enough? They cannot, therefore, they’ll never have rest because they’re working for salvation trying to attain it on their own terms. But God says the work has already been done by the perfect Son of God and He cried out “it is finished”, nothing more needs to be done, it’s fully complete. I’ll place my trust in the Lord Jesus before I place it on myself.

CONCLUSION

We now see how the beliefs of the Mormon LDS contradicts the Bible in enormous ways, hence the reason why they’re a cult. They don’t believe in the Bible and they follow a false prophet by the name of Joseph Smith. They don’t worship the same God as Christians do. They try to use the name Christian when they’re far from any of the beliefs and that’s why they’re a cult.

Mormons are lost and in need of salvation just like any other unbeliever, they’ve been deceived by doctrines of devils. Let us be willing to speak truth to Mormons, we do not hate them we love them and want them to have eternal life.

John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”

God bless.